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If human law prohibits murder (human law has precedent here) but divine law encourages it, which side should be taken?

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Originally posted by mjolnir
If human law prohibits murder (human law has precedent here) but divine law encourages it, which side should be taken?

Discuss.

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Human law has precedence.

Should we otherwise have a set of laws for each religion? In the same country?

"Ah, you are christian, then you can kill. But your fellow jew cannot, he must hang for it..." No way.

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Originally posted by mjolnir
If human law prohibits murder (human law has precedent here) but divine law encourages it, which side should be taken?

Discuss.

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They're both human since divine law was created by humans.

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
Human law has precedence.

Should we otherwise have a set of laws for each religion? In the same country?

"Ah, you are christian, then you can kill. But your fellow jew cannot, he must hang for it..." No way.
I agree with you.

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Originally posted by PsychoPawn
They're both human since divine law was created by humans.
I agree with you too. But human law and "divine" law are still two very different things.

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Originally posted by PsychoPawn
They're both human since divine law was created by humans.
If it's a divine law, then by definition it couldn't have been created by humans. Of course, an alleged divine law could have been created by humans, which is I'm sure what you were trying to say before I muddled your post! πŸ˜›

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Originally posted by gaychessplayer
If it's a divine law, then by definition it couldn't have been created by humans. Of course, an alleged divine law could have been created by humans, which is I'm sure what you were trying to say before I muddled your post! πŸ˜›
Ah, but it is a law of divinity, a law based on claims for the divine. If the divine exist, naturally I think that divine law comes from a divine entity. If the divine entity does not exist, then due to lack of divinity, divinity has an entirely different meaning. Muddled your post yet? πŸ˜‰πŸ˜›πŸ™‚

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We should take into account that also hindi religion has its divine law, and zen buddist religion, why not shamanism, if they have laws tied to their respective religion, then it is divine for them too.

Or do we only talk about the divine old testament sharia laws?

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
We should take into account that also hindi religion has its divine law, and zen buddist religion, why not shamanism, if they have laws tied to their respective religion, then it is divine for them too.

Or do we only talk about the divine old testament sharia laws?
Having just realised something- who wrote the Old Testament?! 😳 I should probably know that...

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Originally posted by mjolnir
If human law prohibits murder (human law has precedent here) but divine law encourages it, which side should be taken?

Discuss.

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I guess I can't get past the fallacy of divine law encouraging murder.

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
I guess I can't get past the fallacy of divine law encouraging murder.
What if it was only murder according to secular law, but not divine law?

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
I guess I can't get past the fallacy of divine law encouraging murder.
Well that depends on how you define 'divine law' and how you define murder. As noted by previous posters, we might mean by 'divine law' the laws that humans claim are divine, in which case there are certainly some that encourage killing others. Whether killing another on the command of God is murder is another matter.
Certainly also, the Bible includes what Christians would call divine laws, some of which demand the death penalty for certain crimes. Again, whether that is murder is questionable.

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Originally posted by PinkFloyd
I guess I can't get past the fallacy of divine law encouraging murder.
Without a definition of murder and an example of a divine law encouraging murder, this thread's going nowhere.

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We could define murder as "wrongfull killing", but then the statement "Murder is wrong" would be a tautalogy. So, perhaps the question comes down to what is the difference betwwen "killing" and "murder."

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Well that depends on how you define 'divine law' and how you define murder. As noted by previous posters, we might mean by 'divine law' the laws that humans claim are divine, in which case there are certainly some that encourage killing others. Whether killing another on the command of God is murder is another matter.
Certainly also, the Bible includes w ...[text shortened]... demand the death penalty for certain crimes. Again, whether that is murder is questionable.
The Old Testament law no longer applies to Christians--and when I hear "divine" "religious" or "God", being a Westerner, I quite naturally think of Christianity. And Christian laws of God certainly do NOT encourage murder.

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